Discouraged G.I. Joe Collectors Lamenting the “Indefinite Hiatus” of Many Local Club Divisions

Members of the Connecticut Division of the GIjOE Collector's Club (one of the earliest and first formed) posed for this photo many years ago. The club is now inactive. (Photo: John Kozin)

The First to Serve? Members of the Connecticut Joes (one of the first local divisions) posed for this group photo MANY years ago. Unfortunately, this pioneering club is now inactive. (Photo: John Kozin)

What would the original "Hasbro Boy" think of the company's 2014 decision to turn its back on the iconic 12-inch action figure that made the company such a great success? We doubt he would be pleased!

Hasbro’s original “Hasbro Boy” logo.

Finding Support at the Local Level Grows Difficult

As Hasbro continues to pull up its corporate stakes and decamp farther down the road from its original fan base of 12-inch collectors, catering evermore to the whims, wishes and greener($) market pastures of younger 3.75″ RAH vs. COBRA devotees, fans of so-called “vintage” (1:6 scale) GIjOEs are now largely left to fend for themselves, fandom-wise. Unsurprisingly, many “1:6ers” have begun splintering off to explore new brands of the hobby (Hot Toys, Sideshow, etc.), while others are putting 1:6 scale action figures aside altogether to engage in unrelated leisure activities (i.e. cars, motorcycles, golf, etc.).

One of the first places this emerging and inexorable brand-exodus has made itself apparent is over at the “local division” level of the GIjOE Collector’s Club (GIJCC). In the past, the GIjCC’s local divisions gathered like-minded fans together within shared geographic regions, held regular meetings, hosted annual GIjOE-related shows and encouraged overall brand-support for Hasbro and GIjOE-related products. But oh, how times have changed!

GIjOE Collector's Club logo

Current GIjOE Collector’s Club logo

Until recently, this was the very lucrative business model being pursued by both Hasbro and the GIJCC. And for the last couple of decades, local divisions have acted as the brand’s strongest standard bearers, keeping the flame of GIjOE passion burning and holding the torch of 1:6 scale fandom high. Sadly though, Hasbro’s current disregard for 12-inch Joes has the future of many local fan clubs looking, well, pretty bleak. Unable to find a division in their area, frustrated fans can only resort to posting pics or repetitive posts throughout scattered corners of the internet. But believe us when we tell you, such computer-centric “keypad fandom’ is NOTHING when compared to having honest-to-goodness, face-to-face “Joe-Talks” with other human beings. Unfortunately, local clubs with real members (not cyber-“likes”) are struggling to survive in 2015. For example, when we inquired about the current status of the (defunct) Central Florida GIjOE Collector’s Club, a dejected Cathy Jones replied:

GIjOE fan and collector, Cathy Jones of FL (Photo: Cathy Jones)

GIjOE fan Cathy Jones of FL (Photo: Cathy Jones)

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“I wish we had a club.  I tried TWICE to get one going, but it never took hold.”—Cathy Jones, FL

“Roadblocks” Facing Local Clubs Formation

Getting a local division “officially” started in this day and age is indeed a challenge. To do so requires a great deal of time, effort, and participation from all concerned, qualities that are in short supply for many fans. And if individual members of a club can’t (or don’t) contribute equally, then its meetings and activities will suffer accordingly. Of course, this has always been the case for most volunteer organizations, and GIjOE clubs are no exception. All that being said…

It also doesn’t help when the GIjCC places unnecessary “legal” roadblocks in the way of local club formation. We’re referring primarily to their blatant attempt to increase subscriptions to their tired monthly magazine. If you’re not aware, the national club requires all prospective local divisions to faithfully record and file pages upon pages of tiresome paperwork. While it’s been many years since we had to jump through the hoops of their “start-up” procedures, I can still remember when we were first trying to form the Central Illinois local division (HERE) back in 2005-2006. In order to “qualify as a division,” we had to submit lengthy membership and meeting attendance forms along with each member’s name and mailing address for at least the first 6(?) meetings. And we were required to do so before the GIjCC would even bother to list us on their website! What the…? That was hardly helpful, gentlemen.

Meetings of the Central Illinois GIjOE Collector's Club can become quite active with all the buying, selling, trading, talking and general Joe-fellowship going on. Remembering to fill out boring paperwork for the national club is the LAST thing its members are thinking about! (Photo: Mark Otnes)

Meetings of the Central Illinois GIjOE Collector’s Club can become quite active with all the buying, selling, trading, talking and general Joe-fellowship going on. Remembering to fill out boring paperwork for the national club was the LAST thing its members wanted to think about! (Photo: Mark Otnes)

Of course, for the national club, requiring the local divisions to submit detailed membership lists was their way of gathering new fan names and addresses in the hopes that they (those new fans) would subscribe to and/or begin paying yearly dues back to the national club. That’s all fine and dandy for the GIJCC, but the requisite hassles at the local level were hardly conducive to a new club’s formation. Rather than help us “get the word out” about our new local division, the national club made us WAIT for over a YEAR before our paperwork was accepted and our club was (finally) listed on their website. The irony of it all? Since the recent revamp of their new website HERE, the national club now no longer lists ANY of its local divisions. So it was all pointless!

Since its founding in 1999, the DFW GIjOE Collector's Club has worked repeatedly with the national GIjOE club and continues to remain one of the most active and well-attended local divisions in existence. (Photo: DFW GijOE Club)

Since its founding in 1999, the DFW GIjOE Collector’s Club has worked repeatedly (and well) with the national club and continues to be one of the hobby’s best divisions. (Photo: DFW GijOE Club)

Hasbro’s current indifference to 1:6ers and the GIjCC’s paperwork stall tactics are hardly the kind of support prospective local club organizers hoped (or expected) to encounter. We’ve found that 1:6 collectors are left largely to their own devices, expected to forge their own way ahead and generate their own “buzz.” That’s sad. Most fans don’t have backgrounds in advertising, marketing or public relations, so it’s easy to see why they’d become frustrated and give up trying. 50 years after our 12-inch hero’s debut, GIjOE fan club growth at the local level has now slowed practically to a standstill.

The younger faces of the "Pennsylvania GIjOE Meets" club reveal its likely interests rest more with the 3.75" GIjOE figures than the older, 12" version. (Photo: PGM)

The young faces of the “Pennsylvania GIjOE Meets” club imply its members’ interests rest solidly with the 3.75″ line of GIjOEs. Their club page on Facebook HERE backs up that assertion. (Photo: PGM)

Hasbro and the GIjCC might as well be burning fistfuls of $100 bills. By not selling 1:6 GIjOE products anymore, t

Goodbye 12-inch Profits! Hasbro and the GIjCC might as well be burning fistfuls of $100 bills. By not selling 1:6 GIjOE products, the two businesses are essentially losing out on millions in profit. (Photo: contractdoctors.com)

Missed Opportunities and Lost Profits

What’s happening in GIjOE-fandom now is truly bewildering. As many of the brand’s “original fans” begin to approach retirement age, with their pockets FULL of discretionary income, Hasbro has nonetheless (and unbelievably) chosen to IGNORE their combined and obvious financial strength. Fans all around the world are ready, willing and able to indulge and immerse themselves fully into the 1:6 scale hobby, but Hasbro wants no part of it; ignoring their requests for new (1:6 scale) GIjOE figures, equipment sets and vehicles. Of course, all sorts of cost-risk analysis arguments can be made, but in the end, the potential amount of (1:6 scale-related) profits remaining unclaimed by the company is literally staggering.

And, as Hasbro goes, so goes the GIjOE Collector’s Club. With both withdrawing their support of 12-inch figures, attendance at the annually held “JoeCon” shows around the country is on a definite downward spiral. The most striking example we’ve witnessed occurred recently at JoeCon 2013 held in Indianapolis, where the number of attending (12-inch) fans was visibly FAR fewer than in previous years (see our complete coverage of that disappointing event HERE). The good news? Overall, the attendance of collectors of 3.75″ Joes at JoeCons appears to be holding (at least for now), helping to keep Joe alive at least at that scale. But a depressing, anti-12″ trend has clearly grown with each consecutive show and many fans are beginning to feel “left out of the proceedings.

Changes Occurring at the Local Division Level

With two major GIjOE shows coming up in as many months (Joelanta in March and the previously mentioned JoeCon 2015 in April), we were curious about the current status of once-bustling local divisions of the national GIjOE Collector’s Club. How many of them are still operating today? How many members still attend local club meetings? In what activities do they engage? To discern the answers to these questions, we recently sent out inquiries to all of the local club’s last known “contact” email addresses, culled mostly from master lists found, you guessed it, on the internet. What we discovered was, to put it mildly—shocking.

Members of the Minnesota Division of the GijOE Collector's Club remain active and supportive of each other's collecting efforts, utilizing Facebook as a way to share messages and trade and sell with other members. (Photo: MGIJCC) Click to enlarge.

Members of the Minnesota Division of the GijOE Collector’s Club remain active and supportive of each other’s collecting efforts, utilizing their club page on Facebook HERE as a way to share messages and trade or sell with other local club members. FAN-tastic! (Photo: MGIJCC) Click to enlarge.

Imagine our concern when message after message began bouncing back to us as “undeliverable,” with “permanent fatal errors,” or tagged with the worst of all possible auto-replies, “account inactive.” Remember! These email addresses are—or were—the MAIN contact method and communication portals for many local clubs. If fans are unable to reach a club through its main contact email address, then that’s as good as sounding the death knell for a local division. After a while, prospective new members will simply stop trying to connect, give up, and go away.

Members of the New England Division of the GIjOE Collector's Club at a previous meeting. (Photo: New England GIjOE Collector's Club)

Go, Pats? Members of the New England Division of the GIjOE Collector’s Club continue to meet on a regular basis, as shown by their website HERE. (Photo: New England GIjOE Collector’s Club)

Furthermore, investigation by our crack research staff revealed that the majority of local division club websites, while still visible on the internet, had not been updated for MANY years (some as many as 10). Numerous club members had also disappeared, either having died, moved away, or otherwise left the hobby altogether. Life challenges too, including health and/or unexpected financial downturns can force a fan’s separation from GIjOE. For example, Ron Neubauer, of the (now inactive) Central New Jersey GIjOE Collector’s Club wrote to us, admitting:

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“I am no longer a NJ resident, having moved out in 2011. And I had to sadly give up my Joe collection due to a nasty divorce, so I am totally out of the (GIjOE) scene. —Ron Neubauer
Chicago GIjOE Club members, Kevin Bolger (left) and Tave Lamperez (right), conduct a "point-counterpoint" session regarding an amazing, MIB "Skydive to Danger" set. Their conversation was typical of the high-level thinking going taking place at the show. HA (Photo: Mark Otnes)

Chicago GIjOE Club members, Kevin Bolger (left) and Tave Lamperez (right), examine a “Skydive to Danger” set for sale at one of their previous club-hosted GIjOE shows in Algonquin, IL. Future shows are now on hold as the once busy division adjusts to its new “inactive” status. (Photo: Mark Otnes)

Chicago GIjOE Club President Ron Biallas in 2008. (Photo: Mark Otnes)

Chicago club President Ron Biallas posed for this pic at a show his division hosted in 2008. (Photo: Mark Otnes)

Even once busy and prominent local club divisions are now falling on hard times membership and participation-wise. We asked collector, Kevin Bolger, of the (now very quiet) 25-30 member strong Chicago Division of the GIjOE Collector’s Club, “Should the Chicago club be considered as defunct or disbanded?” Bolger optimistically opined:

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“Inactive” would be a better description. A lot of our members have been busy catching up on life—with their kids, getting new jobs, working a zillion hours a week, etc. It was also harder getting a permanent meeting place as our long-time meeting place, the Schaumburg Library, put more restrictions on who could meet there. We do get together to go to the Kane County toy show. I was actually going to see if there was interest in getting a contingent to go down for the GIJCC Springfield show in April. As far as an Algonquin show, Ron (Biallas, club president) took a job at another school in the District so the HS venue was not available to us. I have no doubts that we’ll be getting together in the near future as our core members have been meeting for the better part of 20 years!”

As some divisions fall, others will rise. The Kentucky division known as KYGIJOE, recently hosted its first-ever “Kentuckiana GIjOE Toy Expo” in October, 2014. Out-STANDING! (Photo: KYGIJOE)

Looking Back in Time—This outstanding photo was taken in 2001 by a member of the Colorado GIjOE Collector's Club. Such images provide unique insights to fan activities of the past. (Photo: Colorado GIjOE Collector's Club) Click to enlarge.

Looking Back in Time—This photo was taken by a member of the Colorado GIjOE Collector’s Club and dates from 2001. Such “stockpiled” imagery provides unique insight into club activities of the past. (Photo: Colorado GIjOE Collector’s Club) Click to enlarge.

Our review of local division websites was a lot like looking back in time. Rather than operate as hubs of current club activity, most now serve as silent depositories of a club’s past history, revealing details of much busier and more active times. Fortunately, many clubs are keeping their memberships active by abandoning traditional websites altogether and moving day-to-day operations onto Facebook, group emailing lists, or exclusive fan forums. Ultimately however, our attempts to contact all of the known local divisions revealed a sad truth—the number of inactive clubs is now running about equal to those claiming to be active. According to our recent survey (please contact us HERE with any updates or corrections), the following local divisions should now be considered “inactive” or disbanded:

Local Divisions Considered to be INACTIVE:
DISBANDED: Central Florida GIjOE Collector’s Club
INACTIVE: Central Iowa GIjOE Collectors Club 
INACTIVE: Chicago, IL Division
INACTIVE: Colorado 1:6th Scale Collectors Club (Website)
INACTIVE: Connecticut GIjOE Collectors Club (Website)
ON HIATUS: Lone Star Scale Raiders (LSSR)
INACTIVE: Long Island Division GIjOE Club (Website)
DISBANDED: MexJoeheads (Forum)
DISBANDED: Mexico City GIjOE Collectors Club
INACTIVE: New Jersey GIjOE Collectors Club
DISBANDED: NORALA GIjOE Collectors Club
DISBANDED: NorCal GIjOE Collectors Club
DISBANDED: Ottawa 1:6 Scale Collecting group
DISBANDED: Space City Houston GIjOE Collectors Club
We had never heard of many of these clubs, including the intriguingly named, “MexJoeheads,” so we dug deep until discovering Carlos Santillan, the original founder of the club, and asked him if he’d please bring the rest of us up to date on what happened “down ol’ Mexico way.” He replied:
Carlos Santillan, GIjOE fan and collector from Mexico City (Photo: Carlos Santillan)

Carlos Santillan, GIjOE fan and collector from Mexico City (Photo: Carlos Santillan)

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“Hello Mark—Thanks a lot for asking and inquiring about the local fandom of GIjOE. Back in 1995, I was the organizer of a collector’s club called: ‘MexJoeheads‘ and we had a website, a message board and even held regular meetings. It all lasted until 2005, when we parted ways due to several reasons: wives protesting about the time not spent with them, grudges between some of the members, one of the members was to create a printed magazine (but he only stole us our money!), and finally, some dishonest traders. The worst was Polo Moreno, aka “ApeJoe.” He still owes me money! Other members used the meetings to promote their own peculiar visions of WWII history (it grew wearisome to interact with other people’s pontificating), another of the members lost his job, etc., etc.

Since then, I have lost contact with all of them, but I know they used to hang around in a message board from Spain: ‘Escuadron 1:6’ HERE and some are still active and reorganized not long ago to set up a Lili Ledy exhibition in the Toy Museum in Mexico City HERE. As for me, I’m still collecting GIjOEs, Dragon Model limited figures and customizing, mainly on WWII German figures. My latest acquisition is a transparent GIjOE club exclusive that I found in a flea market here in Mexico City a couple of months ago. This is a good account of what happened. Cheers and Best Regards!” —Carlos Santillan

What better place to set up and display your handmade 1:6 AA battery station than OUTDOORS, in the backyard, during a local division club meeting? This outstanding dio was set up during a gathering of the famous LSSR down in Texas. Hoo-EEE! (Photo: Greg Brown)

Lock-n-LOAD! What better place is there to set up and display a handmade 1:6 scale WWII German AA battery station than in the great OUTDOORS of Texas? This outstanding dio was set up, played with and photographed during a (long ago) gathering of the LSSR. Hoo-EEE! (Photo: Greg Brown)

Stuck Somewhere In-Between Active and Inactive

 While most GIjOE clubs can easily be identified as either active or inactive, some locally-based 1:6 scale groups have been around so long, that even when they’re inactive, they still considered to be, well… active! For example, renowned GIjOE fan, collector, dealer and Cotswold Collectibles company rep, Greg Brown, wrote in to describe an interesting club situation down in Texas:
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Greg Brown of Cotswold Colletibles (Photo: DFW GIjOE Club)

Greg Brown of Cotswold Colletibles (Photo: DFW Club)

“As it stands, the Lone Star Scale Raiders (LSSR) are on ‘indefinite hiatus’ until another meet is scheduled. In the beginning, we conversed via Yahoo Groups, but then migrated to Facebook. During the pre-meet discussions, we had people speak up to what they could bring and/or what they could do. Once we had the meet, those who didn’t bring anything generally got assigned “shovel duty.” In the late ’90s to 2005 (or so), we met three to four times a year. We’re lucky to meet once a year, now. Members have come and gone, but the core group is still there, including myself, Tony Tillman, Randy Thornton, Keith Holmes, Bob Welch, Jon Anders, Jeff Boutwell, Hank Dillon, Roy Smalley, Saul Friedman and Matt Stevenson (the majority of which are also active members of the DFW Chapter of the G.I. Joe Collectors’ Club).” 
A Piece of Joe Fandom History—This photo was taken at the very first meeting of the members of the LSSR. They include

Historic Fandom Photo— This pic was taken at the very first meeting of the Lone Star Scale Raiders (see further description in Greg Brown’s quote below). (Photo: Greg Brown)

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The first picture (shown above) is of our very first LSSR meet, at Marco Valladares’ house. The dio was built on an assortment of folding tables, with buildings being fabricated out of cardboard boxes, foam board, and wood, and vehicles being an assortment of vintage Irwin vehicles, Hasbro Jeeps,  and one Cohoon Plastics (remember them?) Kubel. We learned quickly that day that smoke bombs and cardboard buildings don’t get along.”

Details and Dioramas—

Details and Dioramas— This intriguing photo set-up shows German and U.S. medics working side-by-side during a rare moment of truce. Fantastic work, LSSR! (Photo: Greg Brown)

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“Even though the LSSR doesn’t meet much any more, most of its members within the DFW GIjOE Club still carry the torch by building dios and displays for the Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas. In fact, one of our recent builds – that of a downed WWII Waco Glider – is still on display there!” 

It's amazing what you can accomplish with the help of a club and other Joeheads. Check out THIS amazing LSSR dio pic! (Photo: Greg Brown)

Holy REALISM, Joe! It’s amazing what fans can accomplish when they get together and combine their collections and talents into a club. Check out THIS amazing LSSR dio pic! (Photo: Greg Brown)

What a MASTERPIECE! Take a look at the final diorama built by the LSSR. Absolutely breathtaking. It's amazing what fans can accomplish when they combine their talents and work together as a club. WOW! (Photo: Greg Brown)

What a MASTERPIECE! Take a look at this final “JUMBO” pic of the diorama built by the LSSR. Absolutely breathtaking. (Photo: Greg Brown) Click to enlarge—and be BLOWN AWAY!

Bottom Line: Much has happened since our last report on the state of local GIjOE club fandom three years ago (see HERE). New clubs have been formed, while others have faded away. During GIjOE’s 50th Anniversary, Hasbro all but ignored fans of 1:6 scale 12-inch “vintage” figures, prompting many to reevaluate their brand loyalties and future collecting goals. As we get used to being “left on our own,” it makes sense for fans to seek out collecting clubs. Together, we can draw inspiration and support from one another. And while it’s inevitable that some clubs will fail, others, typically those found in larger markets (i.e. Atlanta, Dallas, etc.) will undoubtedly remain strong for many, many years to come. Our best wishes to all local divisions that are still fighting the good fight. Keep up your good work and please let us know about any upcoming plans or future activities. Finally, here’s a list of all the known “surviving,” ACTIVE local divisions. Contact one today!
Local Division Clubs Known to be ACTIVE:
Atlanta GIjOE Collectors Club (Website)
Central Illinois GIjOE Collectors Club (WebsiteFacebook)
Club de Coleccionistas de Figuras de Accion P.R. Inc. (Facebook)
DFW GIjOE Collectors Club (WebsiteFacebook)
JOHIO GIjOE Collector’s Club (Website)
Kentuckiana GIjOE Collectors Club (Facebook)
Manila GIjOE Collectors Circle (Facebook)
Midwest GIjOE Collectors Club (Forum)
Middle Georgia GIjOE Action Figures Club (Facebook)
Minnesota GIjOE Collectors Club (Facebook)
New England Division GIjOE Collectors Club (Website)
Pennsylvania GIjOE Meets (Facebook)
Southern California Inland Empire Division (Facebook)
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7 thoughts on “Discouraged G.I. Joe Collectors Lamenting the “Indefinite Hiatus” of Many Local Club Divisions

  1. Chris Short says:

    Great piece. I am fortunate to be in the active Minnesota club. I also try to be active in the New England club, but have only met up with them once. I personally do not maintain membership in the national club. I just don’t see it as necessary to my collecting needs. I’m happy meeting with local collectors, and attending local shows. I have found more rare HTF Joe-related items at local shows than I have ever seen at a national show.

  2. Rex Adams says:

    The NorCal Division was once quite active as well. It’s members winning 1st place in the SF Joe Con many years ago.

  3. Joe Essid says:

    So what stops local guys with an interest in Joe from gathering for a “Military Toys in 1/6 Scale” meeting? Forming a club? If GIJCC prohibits the Joe name, use another one.

    • You’re right. There’s really nothing to stop anyone from starting a new local club or “division.” The national club isn’t listing or otherwise promoting local divisions anymore, so it’s doubtful they care one way or the other.

  4. Charles says:

    I would say that if you want to look at the failure of the local clubs it isn’t only the fact that a number of folks have grown up and moved on. There was a major disconnect between those who grew up in the 1980s and lived/loved the RAH 3.75 line. I was one of those kids who grew up in the 1980s and grew up with the 3.75 line. I never knew there was a Joe prior to the 1980s.

    So when the 30th anniversary line of 12in started to come out it was eye-opening to all that pre-history of the line. Even cooler was when the Hasbro started to come out with all their military themed 12-inch Joes from the Soldiers of the World to the two versions of Jane. But the time I started to have space and income to collect was the mid 2000s and there wasn’t a club to be found, the only thing was the national club and they wanted more money than I could afford at the time to just be a member.

    I would also note that for those of us who grew up with the RAH line (as some of your passive-aggressive writing opening this article has) feel as if we are the upstarts in the clubs that we tried to join and learn about all things Joe. Even worst was when, for example I found via some networking a club in Florida I brought a new modern Adventure Joe that I had picked up from Toys R US, instead of being accepted there was a taste of its a cheap knock-off and isn’t as cool as what all the original guys had.

    Let alone the use of some of those 21st Century Soldier vehicles caught flak from some of the real old-timers who still have the original Joe Jeep or the couple of Adventure team vehicles. Well looking for a similar original figure fully kitted out on the early versions of eBay has the costs around what my monthly pay check was. The whole experience made me sour on the clubs in general and instead I have a few stable of friends via Facebook that I keep in contact with and we talk about awesome finds on either ebay or in the local thrift/consignment stores.

    Finally, I would note that in the 12-inch line it got so diversified by Hasbro in the early half of the 21st Century, you didn’t know what you were picking up is a true Hasbro offering or a licensed product from someone else. I would note that from the ’90s until the mid 2000s when Hasbro quit making or authorizing license there was all manner of Joes out there. From Toys R US to FAO Schwartz to some group called Dreams & Visions (which was producing copies of Sgt Rock comic book figures under the GI Joe branding).

    So it made it hard for those of us coming back to Joe after leaving when the RAH line died to find Joe to play with. I know that for myself, I have been trying to collect the modern 12-inch lines to play with my kids because they are big and can be more than just the Soldiers. But what to find and some of them are so expensive now in the aftermarket for what was in the stores and under $20 figure blows my mind away. So why get into collecting and joining clubs when as a guy under 40 years of age with two kids? I have less expendable cash than what GIJCC asks for just in membership and have what compared to other fraternal clubs of other hobbies get and give in my annual donation.

  5. Nate Wells says:

    This is a nice article overall, but there’s a reason Hasbro is targeting the RAH generation. Us gen-xers are entering our prime disposable income time. Those at retirement age tend to save, but save money due to being on a fixed income. That’s why the 12″ line was pushed for the last 15-20 years. Hasbro will move on from RAH and Transformers in a few years as well.

    I understand what Charles is saying. I grew up with RAH, but got into 12″ military toys (Joe, 21st, DML, etc.) as an outgrowth of collecting militaria. Unlike in the 60s and 70s, when Hasbro purists could decry the cheap knock offs, most of the Classic Collection stuff paled in comparison to 21st, SOTW and DML. Most of the local club guys like my modern figs, and I’ve gotten the vintage bug from them.

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